"Victim of an over-active imagination"

Would that be the same over-active imagination Mr Plod entertained considering terrorism charges but were short changed by cocked up Liarbour anti-terrorist laws?

And the same over-active imagination that leaves other 17 cohorts in this action, including your brother and sister, still facing a prima-facie case on firearms and other multiple charges that if convicted will hopefully see them locked up for a very long time?

Rongomai Bailey said he was relieved the firearms charges against him had been dropped. He said he would now head back to his farm to grow some vegetables and "chill out"

Maybe the 'veges' are the source of the over-active imagination.

Look what crawled out from under

As Mr Plod marches ever so slowly toward actioning the U16 (or was it U17), now U19 terrorists day in court, it is obvious that some are covering their backsides and dobbing in their associates. So the associate terrorists get promptly arrested.

Someone supplied the terrorism paraphernalia, especially the weapons and Mr Plod does not muck around when weapons are involved. 'Intimidatory and unnecessary' actions are so necessary when dealing with unknown quantities of weapons - just ask this nutter.

Not so, says this legal eagle, well hidden of late. Ever eager to milk the victimhood card as he has been want to do in the past, now vocalising that Mr Plod has learnt nothing and there is room for more compo to extracted. Obviously looking for a new cause, after a QC took some of his potential clients.

I have no doubt the number will rise, as more become marked as terrorist associates in these cases. Pity Labour got the laws so functionally wrong.

They were nothing but terrorists

After reading the whole 155 page document last night, not that my memory allows me to retain much of the detail, I agree with the summary given by Adolf here.

Definitely not a stroll in the bush, these guys were were nothing but terrorists, on a mission to takeover New Zealand.

Like Adolf suggests, Te Quaeda and their associated band of outright fringe nutters will continue operations in their ill-conceived quest for the fantasy utopia of Aotearoa. They will now be more covert, not so electronically naive and do more damage when they strike.

Cheers Liarbour for getting the anti-terrorist laws so wrong.

Update:
Seems there were 156 pages - the page at p144 is missing.

Violent means to an reach an end is unacceptable

Not PC discusses the people who miserably failed the litmus test using a quote from Ayn Rand.

Ayn Rand makes the point as clear as it can be:

One does not and cannot "negotiate" with brutality, nor give it the benefit of the doubt. The moral absolute should be: if and when, in any dispute, one side initiates the use of physical force, that side is wrong—and no consideration or discussion of the issues is necessary or appropriate.

Clear enough for you?

As I said yesterday

Violence in New Zealand politics in any shape or form is unacceptable, pity poorly drafted laws let the Police down.

Shades of Zimbabwe?

Bugged conversations recorded talk of plans for urban and rural warfare, of killing police, removing Pakeha farmers, assassinating politicians and committing actions so brutal that the public would think al Qaeda was responsible

We now know it is only Te Quaeda, but I particularly took an interest when I saw that a land grab from white farmers was intended.

As Mugabes' six-year campaign seizing white-owned farms continues, I suspect our homegrown terrorists have not thought a land grab through. The results over in what used to be Rhodesia, have given hyper-inflation of 1100% or worse, economic ruin and general starvation of the populace, since the land grab started. Now they are asking for white farmers to come back and fix the problems.

While an initial knockout blow of anybody and everybody perceived to hold power or resistant to the cause, by Te Quaeda might rouse the rabble, in the long term anarchy and despondency will set in, as in Zimbabwe, to the detriment of all. All our farm machinery and a lot of other rural inputs come from overseas. Now I suspect overseas interests would have second thoughts about providing funds to a goverment which usurps power by violence.

Not good idea all round.

Maori Party wants evidence destroyed

The separatist organ that is the Maori Party seems to be suggesting that the outwardly pretty damning evidence published this morning in the Dominion Post about the alleged terrorists is to hot too handle and that any evidence should have been ditched when bail was granted without TSA charges.

The lawyer for Tama Iti, usually stridently vocal, in any media that cares to listen, in such matters, says

My comments will be left to the courts to determine. I've already made some representations to the courts

Her apparent calm in these matters is noted, maybe she is losing her edge and is chasing the legal aid dollar these days.

Not so quiet is her legal cohort over at the VUSA the other day. He definitely is pushing the separatist, we have been wronged barrow as always. Talks of 'the long struggle ahead', 'colonisation', 'recent acts are racist acts', 'no faith in the Law Commission review', 'sovereignity' and other topics such as a 'new constitution'. All here. The hell bent mission for separatism these two have long taken upon themselves remains based on a suspect interpretation of the Treaty. Their actions should be reviewed by a Law Commission.

MP Shane Jones is not so forgiving, calling Tama the self appointed 'King of Tuhoe' and suggesting

I think there's something more disturbing that I am hoping the media will turn its attention to. I rather suspect that a lot of the characters mixed up in this rubbish up in Tuhoe and various other parts are using the cloak of Maoriness to disguise and obscure criminality and soon as the cops round the buggers up and treat them as criminals the better.

Now if there are people on P, doing drugs, screaming around with guns breaking the law in terms of arms control then they should face the full force of it cause there is a lot of kaumata Tuhoe want to get on with life, solve the historical grievances, and they are being eclipsed by the self-appointed king of Tuhoe Tame Iti and a number of people who appear to me to be criminals as opposed to genuine dissenters.

That lot above, from Shane, is the first bit of sense I have seen on this whole matter and it came from a Labour MP.

He also had a little dig at the locals (was the sub-editor also on electric puha with the spell checker?)

I guess as the chair of our Maori Caucus the thing that we always struggled with, mate, was we just couldn't get our heads around that there was a conspiracy well-oiled, well-calculated to mame and murder and overcome the nation state from Tanneata. My experience of the place was people wouldn't have got up early enough to pull off such a stunt.